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MORE ON THE COLOR RED
Subject: Great Web Site Sixth Sense
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001
From: Amelia

Hi! I just discovered this web site, and I love it! It's interesting, I just recently wrote a critique of the Sixth Sense for a Media-related Theology class that I am taking, and I came up with a lot of the same symbolism that you did. I had a different take on the "red" however, and I thought I'd share my idea. On Pentecost Sunday, Catholics wear red to celebrate the descent of the Holy Spirit unto the disciples so that they could speak in tongues and communicate with everyone. I noticed in the Sixth Sense that every time an "important" conversation took place, at least one person was wearing red (or at least surrounded by red), and I took it as a reminder of Pentecost, which is (in a very secular sense) a celebration of good communication.

HEARING THE BESOROT
Subject: Newsletter_23
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001
From: Congregacion Beit Shalom

Dear David, I think it is great that even the Hollywood moguls have a chance to hear the besorot/good news of the Jewish rabbi Yeshuah (Jesusīs real name, since He spoke Hebrew, according to Acts 26:14). The only thing Ms. Cannon needs now is to jump on the newest bandwaggon of all, Messianic Renewed Judaism! Mazal Tov! Bevakashah! Welcome!
May the Elohim of Israel bless you all,
Julio Dam Messianic Renewed Rabbi
http://beitshalom.webjump.com or http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/7775/BEITSHA2.HTM
with over thirty free articles like "The Truth about Holy Communion", "The Truth about the Trinity" and other revelations.

PRAY IT CONTINES
Subject: DC Newsletter_23
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001
From: Patti

Oh, we should all hope and pray it continues! This old world (new world) needs all of God we can get!

Didja hear about the lady who went to her Pastor and said, "I wanna dance for God." He said, "Great! The church will be free Tues. at 7pm." "No, Pastor, you don't understand. I wanna dance for GOD!" He repeated, she repeated...you get the idea...sigh.
David, you are loved...lvpatti

THANKS
Subject: Thanks for the Dyan Cannon article
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:48:22 -0700
From: Jake

Thank you so much for writing the info on Dyan Cannon. I liked the video clips and photos. It is great!!!
Jake

DYAN CANNON IS NOT JEWISH
Subject: but wait get it right, daivd
seh isnt a JEWISH CHRISTIAN
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001
From: DAN

but wait get it right, daivd seh isnt a JEWISH CHRISTIAN Dyan is a Christian it appears. SAy it as it is and stop lying agin. Jeez, man you were born to lie or what? There is no such thing as a jewish-christian. What u been smoking, man?
DAN

Response: She has a Jewish heritage. She has a Jewish mother. She grew up and sang in the Synagogue. She says she is Jewish. So, she is Jewish. She happens to also believe in Jesus. Does that wipe out the Jewish mother? I think not. I have a friend who is a Jewish atheist. Would you say he is not Jewish? Jesus was Jewish, Dyan Cannon is Jewish. -David

IN READER'S DIGEST
Subject: Devils_Advocate
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001
From: Betty

Who wrote the book? I think it was a Reader's Digest Monthly choice years ago. Thanks betty

MY THOUGHTS ON CAST AWAY
Subject: Cast_Away
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001
From: Avon Lady

I thought this was a fascinating. Although I did think that it was unusual that he didn't pray once -- many of his personal feelings were not voiced. Only when Hanks tried cheering himself up in "dialogue" with Wilson did he verbalize any feelings.

"Let's not commit the sin of abusing time," was repeated throughout the film. First in militant enthusiasm; lastly in irony.

This film made me think about 'to do" lists, and the exaggerated feeling of accomplishment I have when I cross them all off. There is something more important than accomplishment of man-made goals. We can be a slave to time; or we can cherish the gift. Hanks, as a FedEx manager, enslaved everyone to beating the clock in order to get the job done. His job carried over into his personal life and clouded his own judgments about relationships.

I think that the director of this movie wanted everyone to realize how difficult it is to slow down in these times by forcing them to sit through over an hour of viewing Hanks personal struggles. It was a superb dynamic, in my opinion. I was very restless as Hanks seemed to get nowhere, until I slipped into a deeper way of relating to his journey. Sometimes when it seems we are getting nowhere; we are actually covering more ground spiritually.

Although the movie ended sadly, I thought the twist was crisp as Hanks stood at the crossroads and was suddenly given directions by a young lady without his asking. There was no question that Hanks could have found his way wherever he was going after navigating his way back home from an unknown island. He knew how to get anywhere -- but this time he stood a changed man; where his directions would take on a new course. He had befriended time.

I am reminded of the scripture in Joshua 10:13 where time stood still for Joshua when he was fighting the Amorites. I think that God saw a man who was making the most of his moment and he made it bigger. That's how I walked away from the movie; hoping that my moments are lived that way.

MARKS TEN TOP FILMS
Subject: My_blank_Films
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001
From Mark near Sacramento.

1. Marvin's Room. I doubt that the filmmaker was trying to make a Christian film, but the difference between the Diane Keaton character (who gives herself away completely and finds love and joy) and' Meryl Streep character (who is desperately trying to get out of life what little joy she can and resenting everyone who tries to take a piece of her) is as powerful as any sermon on the theme of "he who tries to save his life will lose, but he who loses his life for my sake will gain it back again."

2. Chocolat. I know, I know. The producer meant to show Christians as narrow, lifeless, joyless, even dead (think of the statue) people, while the pagan lady who doesn't attend church and celebrate spring rather than easter is the bringer of life. Whatever he meant, it is a beautiful picture of law and grace, pharisees and Jesus, bondage and freedom. death and life. God is the giver of every good and perfect gift. He is the giver of life and all things good. It was (and is) the religously self righteous who are opposed to God. Jesus spent far less time scolding the sinners than he did scolding those who thought they were not sinners. Just like this movie.

3. Tender Mercies. Is Robert Duvall a Christian?I loved "The Apostle." Tender Mercies is more subtle. God's sovereign grace pervades the film.

4. Amistad. Catch those clipper ship masts and crossbeams? A surprising film.

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or markhunt111@home.com

HISTORY OF THE PRE-TRIB RAPTURE
Subject: history of the pre-trib rapture
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001
From: Brenda

Do you know where the theory of the rapture came from? What I have learned from history is that when Martin Luther came out with the Biblical proof that the papacy was the antichrist the Catholic church wanted to counteract it. In 1545 at the Council of Trent one of the main purposes was to plan an attack on Martin Luther and the Protestants. This is where the Jesuits came in. In 1534 a secret order called the Society of Jesus, also know as the Jesuits were founded. At the Council of Trent, the Catholic church gave the Jesuits the specific assignment of destroying Protestantism and bringing people back to the Mother Church. This was to be done not only through the Inquisition and through torture, but also through theology.

They were commissioned by the Pope to develop a new interpretation of Scripture that would counteract the Protestant application of the Bible's antichrist prophecies to the Roman Catholic Church. Francisco Ribera, a Jesuit priest and doctor of theology read the prophecies about the Antichrist, the little horn, that man of sin, and the Beast. But because the Pope was his boss, he came to conclusions vastly different from those of the Protestants.

He claimed that they would apply to one sinister man who will rise up at the end of time. "Fantastic!" was the reply from Rome and this viewpoint was quickly adopted as the official Roman Catholic position on the Antichrist.

In 1590 Ribera published a commentary on the Revelation as a counter-interpretaion to the prevailing view among Protestants which identified the Papacy with the Antichrist. Ribera applied all the book of Revelation but the earliest chapters to the end time rather than tot he history of the Church. Antichrist would be a single evil person who would be received by the Jews and would rebuild Jerusalem. Ribera denied the Protestant Scriptural Antichrist (2 Thess. 2) as seated in the church of God as was asserted by Augustine, Jerome, Luther and many reformers. He set on an infidel Antichrist, outside of the church of God. The result of his work was a twisting and maligning of prophetic truth.

Protestant historians have given his work a name - Jesuit Futurism. And Ribera has been called the Father of Futurism.

Historicism is the belief that Biblical prophecies about the little horn, the man of sin, the Antichrist, the Beast, and the Babylonian Harlot of Revelation 17, all apply to the developing history of Christianity and to the ongoing struggle between Jesus and Satan with the Christian Church, culminating at the end of time. Historicism sees these prophecies as having a direct application to Papal Rome as a system whose doctrines are actually a denial of the New Testament message of free salvation by grace through simple faith in Jesus Christ, apart from works. Historicism was the primary prophetic viewpoint of the Protestant Reformers. In direct opposition to Historicism, and rising up as counter-attack on Protestantism was the Jesuits with their viewpoint of Futurism, which basically says, "The Antichrist prophecies have nothing to do with the history of Papal Rome, rather, they apply to only one sinister man who comes at the end."

For almost 300 years after the Council of Trent, Jesuit Futurism remained largely inside the Catholic Church, but the plan was that this idea would be eventually adopted by the Protestants. This adoption process actually began in the early 1800s in England and from there it spread to America.

In 1826 Dr. Samuel Maitland, a lawyer, Bible scholar and a librarian to the Archbishop of Canterbury discovered Ribera's commentary in the library. He published a widely-read book attacking the Reformation and supporting Ribera's idea of a future one-man Antichrist. As a result of his strong attacks against the Reformation in England, the Protestants who produced the King James Bible, received a crushing blow.

Then came the much-respected Scottish Presbyterian minister Edward Irving, the forerunner of both the Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements. Somewhere around 1830, he began to teach the unique idea of a two-phase return of Christ, the first phase being a secret rapture prior to the rise of the Antichrist. Where he got this idea is a matter of much dispute. Some believe Irving accepted it as a result of a prophetic revelation given to a young Scottish girl named Margaret McDonald. In any case, the fact is Irving taught it.

In the midst of this growing anti-Protestant climate in England, a man named John Nelson Darby became a strong supporter of a Pre-Trib rapture followed by a one-man Antichrist. He has also been called the Father of Modern Dispensationalism. In fact, John Darby laid much of the foundation for the present popular removal of Daniel's 70th week away from history and from Jesus Christ in favor of applying it to a future Tribulation after the Rapture. Darby visited America six times between 1859-1874, preaching in all of its major cities, during which time he definitely planted the seeds of Futurism in America.

Cyris Scofield, a Kansas lawyer, was greatly influenced by Darby and in 1909 published his famous Scofield Reference Bible. In the footnotes of this Bible he injected the theory of Futurism of Darby, Maitland and Ribera. The doctrine of an antichrist still to come was becoming firmly established inside 20th century American Protestantism.

The Moody Bible Institute and the Dallas Theological Seminary have strongly supported the teachings of Darby and this has continued to fuel Futurism's growth. In the 1970's Hal Lindsey wrote The Late Great Planet Earth which brought Futurism to the masses of American Christianity and beyond.

Now Left Behind has taken hold of Lindsey, Scofield, Darby, Irving, Maitland and Ribera's idea of Antichrist and turned it into "the most successful Chrsitian-fiction series ever." There is much good in Left Behind which God can use to influence people for Jesus Christ. But, in the full light of Scripture, prophecy, and the Protestant Reformation, something is terribly wrong. Left Behind is now teaching much of the very same Jesuit Futurism of Francisco Ribera which is hiding the real truth about the Antichrist.

Francisco Ribera was the very first scholar to slice Daniel's 70th week away from the first 69 weeks down to the end of time. He taught that Daniel's 70th week was still in the future.

Who had the right theology - those who were burned at the stake for Jesus Christ, or those who lit the fires? Who had the true Bible doctrine - the martyrs or their persecutors? Who had the correct interpretation of the Antichrist - those who died trusting in the blood of Christ, or those who shed the blood of God's dear saints? The futurist school of Bible prophecy was created for one reason and one reason only: to counter the Protestant Reformation!

I'm sorry this was so long. But I feel like it is so important for people to realize!
Brenda

RESPONSE FROM STEVE WOHLBERG
My name is Steve Wohlberg. Many of the above paragraphs from Brenda were copied directly from my book, The Left Behind Deception, without my permission. Oh well. I am glad to see the Word spreading anyway! If you would like to read the entire book, or to learn more about the Rapture, the Antichrist, and Earth's final days, see my web site - www.truthleftbehind.com - or you can order The Left Behind Deception directly by calling 1-800-795-7171.
If Brenda reads this, please email me and say hello!
steve@truthleftbehind.com

FEEDBACK PLEASE
Subject: Input Please Prophecy
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001
From: Clay

Loved the movies and I'm doing a term paper on how The Prophecy and The Devil's Advocate relate to books such as Paradise Lost by Milton and The Divine Comedy by Dante. Any input or feedback is much appreciated as soon as possible...
Make responses to: Angec75@juno.com Thanks!!!

ABOUT GOD
Subject: Pokemon
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001
From: Kenny

everyone , calm down. God isn't real.

A VERY ANGLO MOVIE ABOUT JESUS
Subject: JesusMiniSeries
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001
From: John

Please do not print my email address.
I thought this was a very Anglo version of Jesus, made specifcally to cater to right wing Bible belt Anglo Saxon lunatics. Unlike "Jesus of Nazzareth" or dare I say, "The Last Temptation of Christ", both VASTLY superior films, there is nothing historically accurate about this film. Jesus is portrayed as a White Anglo Protestant Republican. I didnt' like this Anglosized version of Jesus at all. Jeremey Sisto is a classic suburban kid, and how old is he, 22? The acting was HORRIBLE. "I'm a prostitute", wow what elegance was that line delieverd with.[sarcasm]. Jesus was not even White, but at least previous White Jesus's were not so Anglosized. This looks like a film a youth group from a Baptist church would make. There is a scene where Jesus even seems like a bigot, saying "we all learn new things", referring to the Cannanite woman. I doubt Jesus had to learn that. And very Anglo Jeremey Sisto would be the outcast in Judea 2,000 years ago. I prefer a Jesus movie with a message, historically accurate, and good direction and acting.
John

Response: It was written by a Canadian and produces by Italians. Not by US Republicans. I think you brought a lot to this film that has to do with you, and not the film. -David

GAY JESUS
Subject: New Jesus Film
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001
From:

Received the following e-mail this morning. Have you heard about this?

There is a movie that is coming out in 2001 claiming that both Jesus and his disciples were gay. There is already a play that went on for a while. We can all do something! Please send this to ALL of your friends to sign to stop the movie from showing in America. Already certain areas in Europe have started to ban it from coming to their country and we can stop it too! We just need a lot of signatures, and you can help! Please do not delete this! Deleting it shows your lack of faith and respect for our Lord! Jesus said, "Deny Me before men and I will deny you before the Father." Show respect for our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who died for us! Please help! PLEASE SIGN AND SEND TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW! PLEASE...IF WE WORK TOGETHER WE CAN BAN THIS!

Response: This is bogus and not true. -David

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