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HOLLYWOOD JESUS
NEWSLETTER #32
Pop Culture From A Spiritual Point of View

HJ News #32 Main Page
Page 1 -Comments

March 6, 2002
Greetings from David Bruce, Web Master

This page was last updated April 3, 2002
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Main Topic:
SPIRITUALITY
VS. ROCK THROWING

Sub Topic
4 YEAR CELEBRATION

Contents
1. REAL SPIRITUALITY IS NOT THROWING ROCKS
2. VIEWING THE ACADEMY AWARDS THROW SPIRITUAL EYES
3. NEW THINGS AT HOLLYWOOD JESUS
4. A WORD OF THANKS -CELEBRATING 4 YEARS

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1. REAL SPIRITUALITY IS NOT THROWING ROCKS

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A woman named Marie e-mailed me the other day:

Just skipping around on the net and read some of your messages and the ones others sent you. Good job on keeping your cool with so many people responding in the tones that they did. If one could yell over e-mail, some of them were. It must be a bit discouraging...

Marie is right. Hollywood Jesus does get a lot of flames (hate-filled e-mail comments). Her comment got me to thinking about flames. And it seems to me that some people must measure their spirituality by the rocks that they throw. I checked over the e-mail for the last 5 days and found several examples of rock throwing "spirituality".

Here is one from a Christian:

HOW DARE YOU LET A STUPID WICCA POST A MESSAGE ON YOUR SITE. AND YOU HAVE NO RIGHT AS A CHRISTIAN TO STAND UP FOR OUR ETERNAL ENEMIES (wicca, satanists, neo-pagans,ect..... ) IT WOULD BE LIKE A MUSLIM STANDING UP FOR A JEW OR DR DOOM AIDING THE FANTASTIC 4. WHAT MY POINT IS......THE DEVIL IS A LIER AND WOULD DO ANYTHING TO GET YOU TO TRUST IN ONE OF HIS RELIGIONS...NUFF SAID
PS. YOUR SITE IS RETARTED
(editor: No spelling or grammar changes)

And then I get this e-mail message from a Wiccan:

You know I get really p-ssed when people bash my religion. if you haven't, now you know.... to all you 'one god' people calling wiccans, pagens, ect. evil, I have one thing to say to you "bl-w me". people like you give us bad names. If you would just take the time to research tis stuff, you will see that all your little stario-typical belifs are all smashed in to the ground. Go and check your sorces before bashing other religions. If you can actually hold an intellangent conversation on this subject.
(Editor: No spelling or grammar changes)

I am sure neither mature Christians nor Wiccans would consider either letter as a good representation of their belief and practice. Nonetheless, it seems to me that people bashing is becoming more common. And may I say that real spirituality is not throwing rocks at other people who think differently.

Real spirituality is found in "loving one another." Disagreement in respectful discussion is wonderful. "Iron sharpens iron" the scriptures declare. But, disagreement via demeaning and hate filled words is just not cool.

The problem with rock throwing comments is that they tend to be polemic, exaggerated, and therefore untruthful and alienating. Ultimately they come off as foolish and angry. For example, I received this from a Christian named Marilyn in response to Pokemon:

Listen, David Bruce try to be guided by the Holy Spirit. You know the bible says" My people perish for lack of knowledge". Don't be infiltrating the minds of christians with trash. Watch out, for we live under the grace. God has his Holy Spirit ruling right now and it is because of that, that his wrath has not fallen on earth. Be very careful of what your saying and doing. DON'T PLAY WITH GOD YOU"LL REGRET IT. The only thing Disney promotes is PORNOGRAPHY, LESBIANISM. HOMOSEXUALITY AND WITHCRAFT. THAT FACT WILL NEVER CHANGE. IF YOU WOULD TRULY ASK THE HOLY SPIRIT HE WOULD GUIDE YOU AND OPEN YOUR BLIND EYES. (Editor: No spelling or grammar changes)

Exaggerated Flames (hate-filled e-mail comments) can also be racist, and dehumanizing. Here is an example of a misguided Christian who is angry at Hollywood and targets Jewish people.

This site should be called Hollywood Jews since they are the ones who control the movie industry in United States. Names like Eisner, Katzenberg, Speilberg, Geffen, etc. are some of the media moguls of Hollywood...and they are Jewish. What a coincidence ah? Isn't it America the Defender of Democracy, well then why don't you guys make sure that everyone has the right to express themselves. Why is it that one group has to rule what kind of information can be spread and what not? No wonder there's a lack of social sensitivity in your films and an evil portray of racial stereotype. They have the power of information, and nobody can say anything against it.

In terms of rock throwing "spirituality," I like the story of Jesus in John 8:1-11:

...Swarms of people came to (Jesus). He sat down and taught them. The religion scholars and Pharisees led in a woman who had been caught in an act of adultery. They stood her in plain sight of everyone and said, "Teacher, this woman was caught red-handed in the act of adultery. Moses, in the Law, gives orders to stone such persons. What do you say?" They were trying to trap him into saying something incriminating so they could bring charges against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger in the dirt. They kept at him, badgering him. He straightened up and said, "The sinless one among you, go first: Throw the stone." Bending down again, he wrote some more in the dirt. Hearing that, they walked away, one after another, beginning with the oldest. The woman was left alone. Jesus stood up and spoke to her. "Woman, where are they? Does no one condemn you?" "No one, Master." "Neither do I," said Jesus. "Go on your way. From now on, don't sin."

If "God so loved the world," then so should we!

What are your thoughts on this subject?

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2. VIEWING THE ACADEMY AWARDS THROW SPIRITUAL EYES
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Among the most nominated films are some very powerful spiritual lessons.

AMÉLIE -5 Nominations
About a woman who gives gifts of kindness

Galatians 5:22 (Message Translation)
But what happens when we live God's way? He brings gifts into our lives, much the same way that fruit appears in an orchard-things like affection for others, exuberance about life, serenity. We develop a willingness to stick with things, a sense of compassion in the heart, and a conviction that a basic holiness permeates things and people.

A BEAUTIFUL MIND -8 Nominations
About the love of a woman for her difficult husband

1 Cor. 13:4-7 (Message Translation)
Love never gives up. Love cares more for others than for self. Love doesn't want what it doesn't have. Love doesn't strut, Doesn't have a swelled head, Doesn't force itself on others, Isn't always "me first," Doesn't fly off the handle, Doesn't keep score of the sins of others, Doesn't revel when others grovel, Takes pleasure in the flowering of truth, Puts up with anything, Trusts God always, Always looks for the best, Never looks back, But keeps going to the end.


BLACK HAWK DOWN -4 Nominations
"No Man Left Behind"

John 15:13 (Message Translation)
This is the very best way to love. Put your life on the line for your friends.

GOSFORD PARK -7 Nominations
Teaches us about the dangers of the class system

Galatians 3:28 (Message Translation)
In Christ's family there can be no division into Jew and non-Jew, slave and free, male and female. Among us you are all equal. That is, we are all in a common relationship with Jesus Christ.


HARRY POTTER AND THE SORCERER'S STONE -3 Nominations

Harry mother sacrificed her life so Harry could live.

Romans 5:8 (Message Translation)
But God put his love on the line for us by offering his Son in sacrificial death while we were of no use whatever to him.

IN THE BEDROOM -5 Nominations
Everyone is touched by evil

Romans 3:23 (Message Translation)
...we've compiled this long and sorry record as sinners (both us and them) and proved that we are utterly incapable of living the glorious lives God wills for us.

IRIS -3 Nominations
A husband's love for his life's partner

Song of Solomon 8:7 (New Living Translation)
Many waters cannot quench love; neither can rivers drown it. If a man tried to buy love with everything he owned, his offer would be utterly despised."

JIMMY NEUTRON: BOY GENIUS -Best Animated Feature Film

Jimmy learns to obey his parents

Ephes. 6:1 (Message Translation)
Children, do what your parents tell you. This is only right.

LORD OF THE RINGS: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING -13 Nominations
Evil must be destroyed in the Mount Doom

Rev. 20:14 (Message Translation)
Then Death and Hell were hurled into Lake Fire. This is the second death-Lake Fire.

MONSTER'S BALL -2 Nominations
About the complexities of racism

Ephes. 2:15-16 (Message Translation)
He repealed the law code that had become so clogged with fine print and footnotes that it hindered more than it helped. Then he started over. Instead of continuing with two groups of people separated by centuries of animosity and suspicion, he created a new kind of human being, a fresh start for everybody. Christ brought us together through his death on the Cross. The Cross got us to embrace, and that was the end of the hostility.

MONSTERS, INC. -4 Nominations

Learning to overcome fear through love and understanding

1 John 4:18 (Message Translation)
There is no room in love for fear. Well-formed love banishes fear. Since fear is crippling, a fearful life-fear of death, fear of judgment-is one not yet fully formed in love.

MOULIN ROUGE -8 Nominations
Spirituality and sensuality can come together

Song of Solomon 4:10-11 (New Living Translation)
How sweet is your love, my treasure, my bride! How much better it is than wine! Your perfume is more fragrant than the richest of spices. Your lips, my bride, are as sweet as honey. Yes, honey and cream are under your tongue. The scent of your clothing is like that of the mountains and the cedars of Lebanon.

PEARL HARBOR -4 Nominations
Underscores our desire to see all war ended

Isaiah 11:6 (Message Translation)
In that day the wolf and the lamb will live together; the leopard and the goat will be at peace. Calves and yearlings will be safe among lions, and a little child will lead them all.

VANILLA SKY and KATE & LEOPOLD
Taking the leap of faith!

Have you done this yet?


Which films in 2001 had the biggest impact on you?
Biggest_impact_films_E-mail

What are your thoughts about the nominated films?
Academy_Awards_E-mail

Or, for general thought, e-mail here:
Newsletter_32_E-mail


Your comments will be posted below
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3. NEW THINGS AT HOLLYWOOD JESUS
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New Real Video movie reviews at Hollywood Jesus
RealVideo streaming media reviews have been added to many of the new releases. Check 'em out:

Hart's War
Dragonfly

Return To Never Land

John Q

Lord of the Rings
A Beautiful Mind

Mothman Prophecies

Black Hawk Down
Collateral Damage
Rollerball

A Walk To Remember

Gospel According to St Matthew

Let me know what you think, e-mail here:
Real_Video_Reviews_E-mail

Or, for general thought, e-mail here:
Newsletter_32_E-mail

Your comments will be posted below.

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4. A WORD OF THANKS -CELEBRATING 4 YEARS
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Hollywood Jesus turned 4 years old on February 27.
The occasion was marked with its 50 millionth hit.
It took one year to get the first million hits.
Since then the growth has been unexpected and phenomenal.
HJ communicates with every country in the wired world.
The amount of private e-mail regarding special concerns is overwhelming.
I can not keep up with the mass volume of correspondence.
Needless to say, I appreciate all who have helped HJ engage so many people through out the world in good positive spiritual dialogue.
The idea behind HJ is simple: Use common stories (major films) to interact spiritually with precious souls throughout the world.
God is good.

I want to thank several people who by their contributions to Hollywood Jesus have really helped so many people spiritually.

GREG WRIGHT -Pastor and Tolkien Scholar. He has been the driving force behind the Lord of the Rings section. He is a brilliant scholar.

MIKE FURCHES -Pastor and speaker. He has written so many reviews out of his love of Jesus and passion for the arts.

SIMON REMARK -Recent graduate of Trinity Western University. He likes to review film that push the limits like Bad Lieutenant and Requiem for a Dream. He has keen insights.

DARREL MANSON -Pastor, Artesia Christian Church. His contributions focus mostly on the "art-house" films like Chocolat, Memento and The Man Who Wasn't There. His insights are always fresh.

BETTY HAMM -Arts Director at the Naperville Evangelical Free Church. She recently took some time off. I miss her. Her reviews focus mainly on popular mainstream films and she was courageous enough to do Harry Potter!

ANNETTE WIERSTRA -A writer and reporter living in Canada. Her focus as also been mainstream films like Chicken Run and A Beautiful Mind. Always a treat.

BOB MESSER -Musician. He has been the one responsible for the the music review section. I am always amazed at his review picks.

There are many others who have contributed reviews. I appreciate every one so very much. These are friends who engage the culture -rather that blast it. May God continue to smile on each and everyone of you. I love all of you so very much.

Special thanks to Peggie C. Bohanon, John Schuurman and M. Reid Bailey who were there at the beginning and were so encouraging. There is a special place in heaven for Peggy.

Most of all, I owe a strong word of appreciation to GOSPELCOM.NET http://www.gospelcom.net/ Their help has been amazing to me.

A list of all the Hollywood Jesus reviewers can be found here.

Send comments here: Newsletter_32_E-mail

Comments will be posted below.

May God continue to bless you.
Warmly,
David Bruce
Web Master, Hollywood Jesus.

PS To chat directly to me, e-mail: Private 2 David

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Spiritual impact of films
Subject: Spiritual impact of films
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002
From: Janet

Greetings!

Thanks for suggesting this challenge (and challenge it is - to weigh up the actual spiritual effects of films - not easy!). The first question I had to ask myself was "what is spiritual impact?", then "was it the book or was it the film?" (where appropriate) and then try to remember my reaction. I define spiritual impact by noting what seed was planted by the film and what fruit it has since produced. My answers may be different from most - I'm English for a start - never been to the US (except transit lounges!).

The most negative spirutal impact I received was caused by watching "The Exorcist" which flashed back its worst scenes in my head for weeks afterwards and I still can't completely forget them. I wasn't a Christian when I saw it (back when it was first released!) - I wonder if the impact would be different if I was?

I have seen several Bible epics and was very moved by Ben Hur (still am!). It catches action-seekers with gripping scenes, all the while sneaking the Gospel in by the back door. I was also deeply impacted by the Gethsemane scene in Murray Watts' clay animation film of Jesus called "The Miracle Maker", which may not have been released on the big screen in the USA (www.themiraclemaker.com).

Most recently, the spiritual impact of the brilliant "Lord of the Rings" was sown deep. I was moved by Elijah Woods' portrayal of Frodo Baggins - humility, fear and courage in the littlest of heroes. God's truths leap out from this story and challenged me about my own great journey - through life!

I couldn't wait for the rest of the series: I bought all the books and read them right through. What a story! It has shifted my vision and disturbed my spirit - but in a positive way. I'd go into detail, but you'd be here all day reading it (or hitting the back button through boredom!) It is now up to me to make sure that this seed grows and turns into good fruit.

God bless you and keep you.
Janet Georgiou

Spiritual impact of films
Subject: Spiritual impact of films
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002
From: Janet

Greetings!

Thanks for suggesting this challenge (and challenge it is - to weigh up the actual spiritual effects of films - not easy!). The first question I had to ask myself was "what is spiritual impact?", then "was it the book or was it the film?" (where appropriate) and then try to remember my reaction. I define spiritual impact by noting what seed was planted by the film and what fruit it has since produced. My answers may be different from most - I'm English for a start - never been to the US (except transit lounges!).

The most negative spirutal impact I received was caused by watching "The Exorcist" which flashed back its worst scenes in my head for weeks afterwards and I still can't completely forget them. I wasn't a Christian when I saw it (back when it was first released!) - I wonder if the impact would be different if I was?

I have seen several Bible epics and was very moved by Ben Hur (still am!). It catches action-seekers with gripping scenes, all the while sneaking the Gospel in by the back door. I was also deeply impacted by the Gethsemane scene in Murray Watts' clay animation film of Jesus called "The Miracle Maker", which may not have been released on the big screen in the USA (www.themiraclemaker.com).

Most recently, the spiritual impact of the brilliant "Lord of the Rings" was sown deep. I was moved by Elijah Woods' portrayal of Frodo Baggins - humility, fear and courage in the littlest of heroes. God's truths leap out from this story and challenged me about my own great journey - through life!

I couldn't wait for the rest of the series: I bought all the books and read them right through. What a story! It has shifted my vision and disturbed my spirit - but in a positive way. I'd go into detail, but you'd be here all day reading it (or hitting the back button through boredom!) It is now up to me to make sure that this seed grows and turns into good fruit.

God bless you and keep you.
Janet Georgiou

AN ATHEIST BIKER
Subject: Spitfire Grill
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002
From: Rev. Stephen Hale

I saw this movie during the year that my wife was dieing of cancer. I am a United Methodist Minister, but I used to be a biker, an atheist and a bitter hard man. After all I had been through, I was shocked and angry over my wife's illness and eventual death. When I saw Percy's story and saw "the man in the shadows," I came to understand my life better. There truly has been many a Balm of Gilead laid upon my spirit in the years that have come and gone. Just as God watched over that town in the movie and the shadow man (can't recall his name right now), I KNOW without one doubt that God watched over me and I am thankful. Each and every sorrowful moment, each and every joyfull moment, each hurt, and each triumph has been a blessing from God and has been used to the best of my ability to God's greater glory. My salvation came about during and after a neighbor committed suicide and then I had a cardiac arrest a year later. I was literaly reborn with a spirit that was closer tuned to God. I saw that happen to the Percy character and the Shadow Man in the movie. Thanks for reminding me, I pulled the story into my sermon for this week. I used a bit of your reflections and I pray that is ok. May God bless you and your work.
Still In One Peace,
Rev. Stephen Hale,
Pastor New Hope UMC, Enid, OK

BIGGEST IMPACT
Subject: Biggest_impact_films
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002
From: Gary S

 The two films that I can remember that had an inpact on me were The lord of the Rings and The Count of Monte Cristo. The Lord of the Rings was just an all out awesome movie, but The Count of Monte Cristo was so powerful with the message of God will give me justice. I got more out of that film them many Sundays of sermons.
Gary S

I HAVE TO LAUGH
Subject: I_agree_and_do_not_throw_rocks-NL_32
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002
From: Joy

 Hi David,
I have to laugh at some of the flames you posted in your newsletter. It's funny how the people who think they are so right, always sound so simple when they express themselves. I love the fact that you continue on with your writing when so many people criticise you from every side, I think that's a sign of a good heart.

 I used to think like a lot of the people who've been writing in to you. I had all the answers and they were all from the mouth of God. The number of times I went off on people trying to share the 'truth' with them makes me shudder. We're lucky that we have a god who is so understanding of our pride and let's our ingnorance fly so many times.

 Anyways, I just wanted to say there remain many people out there who love your website, think you're comments are a breathe of fresh air, and will continue to love your reviews for their wisdom and heart.
Cheers,
Joy

RESPONSE TO ROCK THROWING
Subject: I_agree_-Newsletter_32
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002
From: Rev. Dr. Jeffery S. Gallen

 I am not surprised by the rock throwing via e-mail. It is called SIN. I believe this is what happens when people confine God to their very small boxes. David, your sight is a refreshing addition to the Christian dialogue that currently exists. The fact is that God uses many means to speak to all His creation, yes, even Hollywood movies, if only we would listen and not throw stones. God Bless.

In His Love,
Rev. Dr. Jeffery S. Gallen

LOOKING OUTSIDE THE CHURCH
Subject: Biggest_impact_films
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002
From: Genie

 Chocolat` -- a great-hearted movie about all the values Christians are called to embody. Sadly, sometimes we have to look outside the church to see that done well!

I AM A WICCAN
Subject: News 32
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002
From: Raven Child

  I am Wicca. For one, we do not belive in hate, revenge, or destruction and we do not drink blood unless it is our own. In the Wiccan Rede it clearly and perfectly states we are not to harm anyone. In other cultures such as Satanism, they belive sacrifice, the drinking of blood, ect. is necisarry. We however do not. We belive all life is created by mother earth. We too belive in gods but not the all mighty god. Harry Potter is just a book. It may be represented in Public schools but again its just a book get over it. If you dont like it dont read it, simple as that. Christians may find it offensive but us some of us Wiccans find the Bible offensive and its every where to. Learn to live with it.
-Raven Child

MY FAVORITES FROM 2001
Subject: Biggest_impact_films
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002
From: Darrel Manson

Memento is probably my top film for the year. It gives us a chance to consider the difficulty in defining truth in a post-mod world.

I'm also very fond of Moulin Rouge and Amelie.
--
Darrel Manson ><>Artesia Christian Church
ICQ 5624184 ><>Artesia, CA
http://netministries.org/see/churches/ch01198

Age is too high a price to pay for maturity.
-Kudzu by Doug Marlett

GREETINGS
Subject: Newsletter_32
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002
From: Ken Priebe"

Hi David--
Congratulations on 4 years of Hollywood Jesus! Hope all is well with you. I miss the correspondence comments! Haven't seen any new ones in a month. The hate-mail in that last newsletter was saddening and shocking. You are a brave soul to put up with it. Tis a crazy world we live in.

Hey, let me know if you're ever in the Vancouver, BC area; we could meet up somewhere.
God Bless,
Ken Priebe

Response: I sure will. And the comments are in the process of being posted. -David

IF A PERSON
Subject: Newsletter_32
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002
From: Anne and Greg

If a person lives with ridicule – he learns to be shy.
If a person lives with shame – he learns to feel guilty.
If a person lives with tolerance – he learns to be patient.
If a person lives with encouragement – he learns confidence.
If a person lives with praise – he learns to appreciate.
If a person lives with fairness – he learns justice.

LOOKING OUTSIDE THE CHURCH
Subject: Biggest_impact_films
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002
From: Genie

 Chocolat` -- a great-hearted movie about all the values Christians are called to embody. Sadly, sometimes we have to look outside the church to see that done well!

RECENT NEWSLETTER
Subject: Newsletter 32
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002
From: Chrissy

Dear David-
I read the recent Hollywood Jesus Newsletter and I can understand why you're
so upset. I think that it is refreshing that there's such a spiritual
newsletter online that strengthens the faith of everyone who reads the
newsletter. Those who wanted to flame the newsletter don't have much of
faith. I think you should continue to run the newsletter because like myself
I am sure there are others who enjoy reading the many aspects of the
newsletter. Well I have to go now but I just wanted you to know that I do
enjoy reading the Hollywood Jesus Newsletter.
God Bless,
Chrissy

MORE HOLLY-ROLLER DRAMA
Subject: 'i_agree_and_do_not_throw_rocks-nl_32
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:32:01 -0800
From: Chris Utley

 >From my standpoint, the problem...and the reason why Holy-Rollers (i.e. the people who send you hate mail) exist is because they haven't grasped Matthew 16: 13-18.

 Holy-Rollers camp out at verses 13 and 14. They're the first to tell you "who do men say He is". When they praise Him, they only recite what they've learned from years and years of sitting in church. Christ's goal for us is answer as boldly and strongly as Peter did in verses 15-17. When Peter declared that "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the Living God," that was an answer that can only be birthed out of PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. Hence Jesus' response that "flesh and blood didn't reveal that to you."

 Everybody's always jumping on you and sending you these emails questioning your very salvation and stuff. They're doing that because, if the truth be told, they don't know Jesus. They know God...His righteousness and holiness and and His power. But they don't know Jesus...His grace and mercy and love and lovingkindness. Most of the people who criticize you probably have the most rotten lives you'll ever see. Church (the buliding and all it's activities) is all they have. Without that 2 1/2 hours they spend on Sunday morning, their lives are empty. Their marriages are bad, their kids can't stand them (which is probably why they resorted to other religions).

The whole concept of finding God/Jesus/The Holy Spirit in places other than The Bible/Church/TBN is absurd to them. Why? Because men say that He can only be found in Chruch/The Bible/TBN.

 But David, you know Him. You have sought to find Him in places no one has ever imagined to find Him. And 4 years and 50 million hits later, you continue show us the way to Him in those most unlikely places such as movie theatres and rock music. You have no idea how much fruit you are bearing. You have no idea of the seeds you're planting in the hearts of Wiccans, Muslims and others. If and when Jesus saves them, the time they spend at HollywoodJesus.com will prove to be one of the impact points in their life that helped guide them to The Way.

 DON'T STOP. Keep on moving...and keep those commentaries coming! The Father and Son are pleased...and so am I!

Chris Utley

SEE FEW LINES IN MESSAGE
Subject: I_agree_-Newsletter_32
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002
From: dr arvind

Dr Arvind vaish MBBS,HPPSC
near iti Nahan HImachal India 173001

Oh God,
dip all human in the sea of feeling as of well-being of sex.
Let them to feel joy, having no time to nag, to kill and to pain each other
Oh God,
create a village, a town, a city,a nation or planet like earth having human, free from all diseases, by knowledge,love and science
Oh God,
let people to find each type of sensation by their own soul creating always painless feeling by own central nervous system.

MERCY TO THE PEOPLE
Subject: I_agree_-Newsletter_32
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002
From: Margaret

 I see these people as "prophet people" not "mercy people". They are right in condemming the sin, but forget to show mercy to the people. Jesus taught us to hate the sin but love the sinner. Since it is easier to condem than to forgive, sin and sinner get lumped together.

THROWING ROCKS
Subject: I_agree_-Newsletter_32
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002
From: Melanie

 It just goes to show that although, as professing Christians, we're forgiven, we're still sinners. We still make errors of judgment, such as criticizing without love, judging without knowledge, and prejudice without basis. We have to be willing to admit that we could be wrong! Approach others with an open mind; God gives common grace to all people, not just Christians. You never know what you might learn.

I appreciate your website and the effort to draw people's attention to the good ideas in movies. "Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever ispure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable-think about such things" Phillipians 4:20 NIV

Melanie
Lethbridge, Alberta, CanadaDISGUSSTED EX-CHARISMATIC SPEAKS
Subject: Newsletter 32
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002
From: Jeff Hamilton


As a non-churchgoer, disgusted ex-charismatic, etc...I was lifted simply by your printing of the text of the story of the woman caught in adultery.

It draws me to whatever the Jesus figure was....

Jeff Hamilton

LOVE OTHERS
Subject: I_agree_-Newsletter_32
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002
From: Keith w. Kunz

 as Jesus loves us. So simple yet most People,(christians included) are clueless, on the practice.

 I say bravo! to David Bruce, and Hollywood Jesus for listing comments , from non- christians. [ yes, i know about christian wiccas but that`s another can of worms]
Keith w. Kunz

sent with joy and love! †
http://community.webtv.net/KeithWK/PSALM45
http://community.webtv.net/KeithWK/Thepottersclay

THANKS
Subject: I_agree_-Newsletter_32
Your no.32 newletter: thanks!
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002
From: Sandra

 Hello David, I just wanted to say thankyou for your newsletters. I can't remember how I came across your site first of all, maybe a link from somewhere. I enjoy your newsletters, sometimes I have to wait a couple of days to get time to read them, as they arrive at work. But it keeps me in touch (I am British, living in France).

I do think it's a great pity some folks are so - well, bigoted - (should
that have 2 t's, it looks funny), and refuse to see what they have in common
with others. Some of the comments you quoted, they are so self-righteous.
I remember (from years ago, before I was a Christian) George Harrison's song
lyrics, "you will see we are all one and life goes on within you and without
you". My view is, there is one God, we all see him in different ways,
according to our cultural backgrounds or heritage, and according to our
needs - spiritual needs are so important and so individual. I became a
Catholic twelve years ago this coming Easter, baptism, confirmation, first
Holy Communion, all at the Easter Vigil. The mystical nature of the
Eucharist is important to me, and as a woman I like to think that Our Lady
is looking after us too. This may be difficult for you to understand as you
are Protestant, but I trust that you are openminded about it! As
Shakespeare said, "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than
are dreamt of in your philosophy" !! We really do not know a lot about
"life, the universe and everything", do we? Christians of different
denominations lay emphasis on different aspects of Jesus' message, that's
what I feel. And so you go to the Church that suits you. But we must be
tolerant of each other - one of Jesus' most important messages was
forgiveness. And there is precious little of that in some of the letters
you seem to get.

Anyway! Enough! I like your site and I like the way you see very positive
elements in most films. The section where you review the spiritual messages
of the Oscar-nominated films is just great, and refreshing and surprising!
We need to look with the eyes of faith, that is something our priest said to
us during our preparation course twelve years ago. I think you do that, and
I appreciate it.

Thanks - carry on the good work! And may God continue to bless you.
Best wishes,
Sandra

Response: Thanks Sandra. Nice uplifting letter. -David

CASTING STONES
Subject: Newsletter_32
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002
From: Dave

 As a rotten speller myself, I force my self to try and look for errors and try to remember the correct spelling. I find it a good exercise when others point out the errors and I am forced to look for them. But David, on this posting of "Hollywood Jesus", your heading"2. VIEWING THE ACADEMY AWARDS THROW SPIRITUAL EYES " just jumped right at me. I think the word you were looking for was "through" Better get an new prof redder!

Response: Opps! Thanks, David

KEEP IT UP
Subject: I_agree_-Newsletter_32
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002
From: James

 I have to say having been a christian for around 16-18 years (sheesh has it been that long?!), I have been no part of a church for several years, in part because of such attitudes(is that the correct spelling?). I still beleive the part of the Bible that speaks most directly to the church these days is probably when Jesus addresses the pharisees - after all the church is now the spiritual establishment as they were then.

I think HJ is an excellent site - balanced and mature.

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