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THANKS...
Subject: superman
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001
From: es
it
appears you discuss some of the things i've suggested to friends
for years only to have them balk at my "paranoia" and "crack-smoking
insanity"
...
you ever watch ultraman, much the same as the superman situation,
in many ways especially more blatant and obvious, but nothing could
be too obvious for my sci-fi geek anti-christian pals... but then
i fully understand the want to keep ones head in the sand too, we're
all guilty, but then some are just having more fun with it than
others, perhaps more than one should... thanks...
SUPERMAN/MESSIAH
Subject: Superman
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001
From: Jonathan
I found the article on Superman being the Messiah, very interesting
and compelling. Anyone who reads the comics, or has read them in
the past has seen similar parallels, especially with Superman's
death. I have noticed in Superman's death, in the comics, that there
is much religious symbolism. Note the similarities below:
1.
Superman dies in a sacrificial way, just like Christ
2.
Following Superman's death many people take up the mantle and replace
superman. These new "supermen" parallel the disciples and false
christs mention by Jesus in the gospels. The man who becomes "Steel"
in the comics, does not pass himself off as the real superman, rather
he is seen more as a disciple of the original, who takes up the
mantle to do battle with the evil. The other supermen resemble more
of the false christs as they claim to be the original.
3. Superman experiences a resurrection that is witnesed by many,
just like Christ's was.
4.
Superman's resurrection occurs with him being "born" out of an egg/womb
like kryptonian ship. This egg/womb symbolism parallels the "new
birth" motif of the gospels. Also it parallels the tomb in which
Jesus rose from. It is also interesting to note that the kryptonian
machine that finally gives birth to the alive superman, first travels
through water. The symbolism of baptism can be scene here, especially
when Paul says that we experience the death and resurrection of
Christ in the waters of baptism. Also the superman tomb/statue where
the body of superman lay is later on found empty, although it is
not until later on in the series that the true superman comes back.
Following the empty tomb we find the discovery of the false supermen
as well as the superman disciple.
5.
Superman's resurrection experience is really combines the resurrection/return
motifs of Jesus. At Christ's second coming the powers of evil are
destroyed. It is said that following Jesus' resurrection there would
be false christs who would seek to deceive those who know the truth.
So the superman story seeks to telescope the resurrection and second
coming of Christ into one story. It is after Superman comes back
from the dead that he goes out to do battle with the evil half/cybernetic
superman, who really symbolizes the beast or antichrist of Revelation.
Superman does battle with the evil superman with the help of some
friends, which symbolizes Revelation 12 and the heavenly battle
in heaven between good and evil. The story really makes you think!
Jonathan
Response:
Excellent comments. Thank you -David
SHOWED
SUPERMAN EVIL INTENT
Subject: Very interesting page....but!!!
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000
From:Travis S. Tarrant
Hi, I am 32 years old and to this day like a child I will watch
Superman the movie over and over again because of how, like the
Bible, the message of hope is so uplifiting. But there is a comparison
between Lex Luthor and Satan that I disagree with. Though, in the
Bible, Lucifer did temp Yashuah the messiah with worldy goods, Lex
Luthor never tempted Superman. All he did was use a visual aid to
show Superman what his evil intentions were. Thank you, Travis S.
Tarrant
SUPERMAN
AND SEXUALITY
Subject: SEXUALITY
Date: Sun, 28 May 2000
From: FAULL
YOUR
SITE IS GREAT!! IN REGARDS TO THE SEXUALITY ISSUE OF SUPERMAN AND
JESUS... WELL ALL I CAN SAY IS SUPERMAN IS NOT JESUS ...BUT WE ARE
JESUS' BRIDE...GOD OUR MAKER IS OUR HUSBAND...JESUS IS INTIMATE
IN A SPIRITUAL /RELATIONAL WAY. I THINK YOU CAN THINK OF LOIS AS
THE BODY/BRIDE OF CHRIST...AND THAT HE DESIRES A INTIMATE LOVE RELATIONSHIP
WITH US. PLEASE DON'T POST MY EMAIL...THANKS
SUPERMAN,
JESUS AND EL TOPO
Subject: congratulaitons
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000
From: Matt Burgener
i really liked this site. Your analysis is through and thought provoking.
Your conclusions are not that suprising, as due to the extreme popularity
of the bible, it is understandable if its story serves as the basis
for many others. My faveorite hollywood Jesus would be the mexican
film "el topo" written directed stared in and scored by
a man whose name I'm not sure of, gadaroscy? (a russian-mexican.)
Anyways checkit out if you can I have the feeling it would be enjoyed.
Keep up the good
work. Matt Burgener
PEOPLE
CAN CONFUSE SUPERMAN FOR JESUS
Subject: Please explain...
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000
From: kit
Dear Dave,
Please explain how you think non-believers will see the true character
of Christ though "Superman". Contrary to your explanation
of the relation between the two, I think it paints a unacurate account
of how Christ was and is, or his teachings and miracles. I don't
mean to sound contradicting but I've looked at your site and I'm
concerned people who may be looking for the Christ of the bible
on your site, will find a counterfeit representation of who he really
is. The culture is not wisley looking for spiritual conformation,
by showing movies that have hints of God in them, as you seem to
portray in your "There is something Going on in our Culture"
statement. This world is searching for the true nature of Christ
to fill the void in there lives whether they know it or not. We
should show them who Christ really is. I hope I havn't affended
you, it was not my intent.
God Bless
My response: What? How small do you think God
is? Do you think that if someone was seeking for bread that God
would give them a stone? God honors honest seeking hearts and God
will use the culture (and a host of other things) to help such a
person on their spiritual quest. May God open your eyes to God's
ever present nature, profound love and power. Read Acts 17:16-34
and Philip 4:8.
JESUS
WAS SEXUAL
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000
(This is part of a private note, so I will post only this important
portion)
About the person who commented on the Sexuality of Jesus. My belief
that Jesus was fully human / fully divine, and consequently fully
sexual. Sex is more than an act, it is an integral part of identity,
human identity. Conversely who could deny that God is PRO-Creative?
MODERN
VERSION OF SON OF GOD
October 30, 1999.
I
have loved Superman from the beginning. I came to believe in this
theory as well after I had watch the classic Sci-Fi film, The Day
the Earth Stood Still, which is very heavy with biblical meaning.
Once I drew the connection between Superman and Jesus I realized
that was why I like him so much: he was a modern version of the
Son of God. One point that you did not mention: Superman's adoptive
parent's names are Martha and Jonathan Kent. Their first initials
are the same as Mary and Joseph.
-Kris-
SUPERMAN
ISN'T BLASPHEMOUS
September 13, 1999.
I
think that some of the responses have been a little uptight here;
) As you mentioned, this story was originally written many years
ago. I don't think it is blasphemous to say that a couple of writers
decided to write a story about a character that displayed many "Christ-Like"
qualities, and decided to infuse many parallels to the story of
Christ himself. I believe that the similarities were quite intentional
and striking(particularly the names)...and the probable intention
was to keep it vague enough for public consumption. I bet they would
have smiled about the film being accepted as mainstream with most(including
myself) not consciously picking up on their wonderful nod to the
saviour. even on it's surface, Superman is the story of a good man.
I don't know if it was mentioned, but it could also be noted that
Superman was essentially without sin. Now this is arguable, of course,
but he was not of our world so he was not built with the sin nature
that plagues us.I guess I just wanted to express that I thought
it was silly to criticize something with such an obvious good-hearted
intention. It should be stressed to those that criticize that the
creators NEVER stated that this was the story of Jesus to be taken
literally. Just a wonderful modern story with some symbolism and
direct references to Jesus and hi greatness. When we pick out stuff
like sexuality etc.
we are forgetting that this was made into a modern story for entertainment
as well. Anyway, thanks again for your site and great observations.
Jason
My response: I totally agree with you.
COMPARISONS
AND PAUL VEROEVEN
July 30, 1999
hello,
hi discovered your site while doing some late-night web surfing.
i found the "comparisons" interesting between Superman
and Jesus. having recently listened to Paul Verhoeven's commentary
and viewed the film countless times, i saw the connection between
Robo and Christ. it's amazing
how one story can inspire dozens of films and series. isn't
it odd, that once the sequels began for these two films, the qualiy
went downhill (with the exception of Superman II- which is on par
with the original in my view).
i look forward to reading more of your
page's content. i have no affiliation with any religious group or
denomination, but i find the subject very interesting. especially
when the art of filmmaking is involved.
-jh
PROVOKES
THOUGHT ABOUT CHRIST
June 9, 1999.
Allows
young people to think more realistically about Christ.
SUPERMAN
IN INDIA
May 20, 1999.
This
is an amazing article. Great eye-openar
OTHER
SIMILARITIES
April 20, 1999.
In
doing research on sci-fi films (and being a devoted Superman comics
collector) I could not help but include one of the greatest movies
in my opinion, Superman. I was very surprised to find this site.
My first reaction was that, 'oh man, someone actually likes Kal-El
more than I do'. There are many similarities I think, but then again
there are many similarities between 'the Wizard of Oz' and Pink
Floyd's 'Dark Side of the Moon'. I think, maybe, that if one looks
hard enough one might find that this story was just a formula used
by its creators. The decent into Hades, for example, this aspect
(and many others mentioned) go along the lines of the epic poems
from Greek literature. Check it out!
My response. You are so right. Dying-rising god myths predate Jesus
by 1000s of years. As does the descent of the gods to the nether
world. The Sun sets (dies) travels through the under world (hades)
and rises again. Cycles of nature do same thing: Fall = death, Spring
= resurrection. Also, sleep cycles, falling asleep = death, dreams
= nether world, waking = resurrection. All of it points to the ultimate
truth of Jesus. You are right in noting this formula in many other
places.
FILMMAKER
COMMENTS
April 20, 1999.
Howdy.
I was just sent this page today, and I'm thrilled. I'm a HUGE Superman
fan, and I'm also a Christian filmmaker- strike that. I'm a a filmmaker
who is a Christian. I've always enjoyed looking deeper into the
Superman story, and I found even more that I had not thought about
before on your page. There's a little something in Superman 2 as
well, where he gives up his Superpowers (Deity- Phil.2) for the
love of a human (us). After his death (he gets beat up real bad),
he calls on his father, who had turned away from his son, and is
restored to super-status (resurrection). Interesting stuff. I will
always be cautious to not put more into the story than is there,
but at the same time, if a movie gives me a better understanding
of Jesus' sacrifice through a picture or a symbol, then praise God.
I would caution others not to limit God in His reach. God has used
movies made by nonbelievers in my life in a mighty way (Amistad,
Dead Man Walking), and Superman is one of them. It's also my favorite
movie. Thanks so much for the site. I hope to be reviewed on it
someday. Jeremy Lott. Tednelson@mail.utexas.edu
COOL
REVIEW
April 19, 1999.
IT'S
GREAT. THAT WOULD BE SO COOL IF YOU COULD DO THAT WITH ALL THE MOVIES
SO THEN WE WILL KNOW WHAT WE WACHT.
I
NOTICED ANOTHER PARELLEL
Feb 23 1999,
One
Superman/Christ parallel I noticed that was striking: Just before
Superman leaves the fortress of solitude, Jor-El tells him this:
"They're a good people, Kal-El, they wish to be. They only
lack the light to show them the way. That is why I have sent them
you, my only son." What do you make of that? You could extract
a whole semester of theology courses from those sentences! -- Keith
Kraska Philagape@aol.com
YES,
THERE ARE PARALLELS, BUT:
Feb 6 1999,
I,
like a previous emailer, fear that too much is being read into these
movies. Yes there ARE some similarities between the story of Superman
and our Savior Christ Jesus; however, the Antichrist will likewise
have some similarities, as so to decieve many (which the False Prophet
will focus on). Superman NEVER refocuses glory to the Creator. Jesus
said that he came in his father's name and was not accepted, yet
that others would come in their OWN NAME and would be accepted (as
a messiah/savior). Don't get me wrong, I love the Superman story
(as science fiction);- But, as a born-again Christian with Jewish
ancestry, and as a 20-year student of Eschatology, I have to put
in another vote for concern of making mountains out of mole-hills,
and re-writing the origins of good movies via speculation. If the
writers' had intended the parallel, then it would be common knowledge
(such as George Lucas' source of "The Force"; in the Star
Wars storyline). There are many things in this world would could
be paralleled to God / Jesus / the Creator (such as Alcoholic's
Anonymous' "higher being", for example), which are actually
substitutes for the Truth that they just can't accept. Jesus is
the (ONLY) Way, and the (ONLY) Truth, and the (ONLY) Life. --Pete
Souza [psouza3@pacbell.net
My response: Pete, here are some quotes as food
for thought:
"Christ-figures, men and women (and
perhaps even creatures of fiction like Hobbits) are 'analogies'
of Jesus, images of Jesus, who can assist us in our attempts to
give depth to some understanding of him... However, many storytellers
(especially in cinema) are not believers or committed to Jesus.
And yet, many of them use Christ-figures, consciously or unconsciously,
in their work."
-Peter Malone, Christology in Edward Scissorhands.
"As expressed in his human existence,
the Word has a history. Jesus is born, lives, suffers, dies rises.
As he enters the heart and mind of people, the Word becomes story.
As projected into the history of all people, in all times, in all
cultures, the Word becomes a story told and re-told. The occasions
for such retellings are as frequent as the number of the life-stories
of men and women who hope that their story is a good story, The
Word becomes the way of telling our story, the way of accounting
for how we all belong together, from the beginning unto the end."
-A Kelly, The Word in Story, 1974:27)
"(Screen writers) have drawn
on the universal fund of archetypal stories, be they fairy-tales,
legends or myths, that fascinate story tellers and story-hearers
alike. These stories include the Gospel stories. Joseph Campbell,
following Carl Jung in his exploration of meanings of these stories,
uses the phrase, "the hero with a thousand faces." Jesus
is one of these heroes, He has become the universal figure and his
life, death and resurrection have become symbols of human experience"
Peter Malone, Explorations in Theology and Film, 1997:84
"Pagan resurrection myths, for those
who are able to discern, foreshadow the central event of God's dialogue
with his creatures, the resurrection of Jesus. This is to say that
pagan resurrection myths, in their own limited way, were vehicles
of God's revelation. What is pagan, then, is not to be disparaged
as if there was nothing worthy in paganism. There is in paganism
and in pagan resurrection myths a bestowal of insight by the God
who created pagans as well as Christians." -Leon McKenzie,
Pagan Resurrection Myth and the Resurrection of Jesus,
1997:145
ICON
OF AMERICA
Jan 23 1999,
I
grew up on Superman and have many fond memories of Superman the
Movie. As a Christian, I am slightly disturbed by this comparison,
however I note that you are very clear that Superman does not =
Jesus. I have been saddened that Superman never rose above a secular
icon of America. He becomes to the younger fans, unfortunately,
an idol of sorts in a medium more acceptable than the message Jesus
taught us. Nevertheless, I remain a Superman fan although careful
never to place the values he espouses as a contemporary version
of the Greatest Story Ever Told. Blessings.s -- Ken
BE
CAREFUL
Jan 15, 1999.
Hello.
Great page. I am scared, however. I do not understand whether or
not we as Christians should be doing what was done on this site.
I think that there was great resemblance to the Superman we know
from TV and SUPERMAN, Jesus Christ. I don't know however, if there
was just a little too much read into the movie. I am sure that with
a little time, and effort, we could make any movie "Biblically
matching" Let's be careful about what we try and share as positive
truth when we aren't sure! (Hope I didn't come across too negative!)
-Stevan Sheets s3sheets@barnabas.indwes.edu
MY RESPONSE: Don't be scared. Jesus is Lord not Superman!
SYMBOLIC
ICON
Interesting symbolic figure Superman and Jesus.
This is a perfect example of how there is more than meets the eye.
The hero of the world and icon of America Superman and his story
has many similarities between his life and Jesus'. kjorgensen21@hotmail.com
SUPERMAN
Oct.
12, 1998.
David,
I was both fascinated and pleased to find your web site. It is certainly
worthy of the name "Jesus," and it is by far the most
creative, original, and graphically pleasing site that I have ever
been able to enjoy, anywhere on the net. Your site has been added
to my browser's personal toolbar and I intend to be a regular visitor.
I was especially pleased to jump off to
the "Superman 60/20 Celebration Site." There, I contributed
my 2 cents' worth, and took some of your observations with me. Without
being preachy, I tried to introduce Superman fans to a comparison/contrast
exercise between Superman and Jesus Christ, the God/man. I've attached
the piece as a Corel Envoy file for your perusal. If you are so
inclined, get back to me and tell me what you think Thanks again
for the Super site!
Keep the faith, brother! In Jesus' name, a Superman fan forever,
-Paul
HERE
IS WHAT PAUL WROTE: Superman represents, to me, the power of the
ultimate mythic hero, the all-conquering Jewish Messiah, who comes
to Earth from the starry heavens to right all wrongs and put to
right all injustices. In my understanding of the biblical New Testament
scriptures, Jesus Christ is seen as coming again to Earth one day
-- this time, in power and majesty, as benificent dictator and supreme
judge of the nations and peoples of the world. I see this very strongly
portrayed by Superman, who, although lacking governmental authority
himself [unlike the Messiah, who sets up his kingdom on the earth
and actually becomes the primary world governmental authority],
Superman, being sent by his heavenly father to earth, goes about
his divinely-appointed tasks, combatting evil in all forms and doing
good everywhere, from saving kittens in trees to saving humankind
itself from evil villains and cosmic disasters. He is larger than
life, bigger than the world, and portrays an impeccable example
of Godly righteousness living among sinful man. He has no knows
weaknesses except for kryptonite, which is his Achilles' heel. Jesus
Christ, however, the soon-coming king, has no known weaknesses.
Period. The cloak of Humanity which he wore his first time here
as the Suffering Savior is weakness-turned-to-strength. If anything,
it indeed provides unquestionable credibility for his savior role,
as he had to "walk more than a mile in someone else's shoes,"
and yet not succumb in any respect to the evil which surrounded
him. Like Jesus, Superman believes in the potential goodness found
in every person, and directly appeals to that goodness when dialoging
with people from all walks of life. And, of course, like Jesus,
Superman had to die in order to save the world from total destruction
from Doomsday itself. And, again like Jesus, Superman resurrected
from the dead to continue his campaign against evil. The mythic
messiah hero has been a part of mankind's history from the Garden
of Eden, to Gilgamesh, to Isis, to Prometheus, to Quetzalcoatl.
In Superman, we can find a contemporary messiah figure, an all-cultural
avatar, and one which resonates deeply in the souls of the downtrodden
everywhere. Anyone who has ever been mistreated by bullies, or ripped
off by crooks, or taken advantage of by the\ unfairness of societies,
governments, and individuals is subconciously looking for such a
champion. Who among us cannot love Superman? He is Goodness incarnate,
ultimately winning over Evil. He represents all that is potentially
noble and good in each one of us. And each one of us, as much as
we are able, to one degree or another, aspire to be just like him.
Happy Anniversary, Superman! May you live forever!
ABOUT SUPERMAN'S SEXUALITY
You have much biblical support for your theories and you draw many
many parallels between Christ and Superman. However, you don't address
Superman's sexuality. Throughout the first 2 Superman movies, there
is a definate sexual attraction between the Man of Steel and Lois
Lane. How does this fit in? From what I can remember from elementary
school, Jesus had no sexuality or sex drive. Lois Lane is obviously
a love interest. How do you account for this attraction between
the two of them? choochers@aol.com
My Response: Sexually, there is no connection!
Superman is a savior/hero with some connections to the life of Christ.
Superman does not = Jesus.
Superman
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